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This is a great question. There is only one time when the answer is simple and black & white. If, for whatever reason like starting your 24 month new card bonus clock, you are going to close all your Membership Rewards cards (or one going to a single account), you MUST get the points out first or they will be lost forever! End of story. Also if you are ever targeted with the AMEX Financial Review it may be wise to move the points out as if you do not “win” the review, the points will be gone, but you can move them out during the process.

If you are not going to close the card then there should be no “pressing” reason to move your points anywhere else.  Many times during each year there are good bonuses of 30-50% for sending them to many airlines. Now if you are short some miles and want to book seats right now, that is also a good reason to transfer some, but not more, than you need now. I have done very well with this card as the $200 airline incidentals credit, $100 towards GOES, lounge access and more + 25,000 points is a very good value and should be a card to include in your next card round if you are planning on one soon.

The same thing goes most of the time with the SPG points earned from either the personal or the business flavor of the cards.Your SPG points will NOT go away if you cancel your SPG AMEX card. However, SPG points do expire if you do not have activity in the account, like a stay. You can also every month take advantage of the audience reward trivia and get 10 free points to keep the account alive as now any activity counts!  The answers are even provided here at MilePoint in this thread. So no rush to get those miles out until you need them.

Lastly with SPG it is important to remember the bonus they give you. For every 20,000 you transfer to an airline, they give you 5,000 bonus miles so you net out 25,000 at the other end. This is a great value and one of the reasons SPG points are so good. So I hope that covers the question asked and feel free to shoot off any more if this is not clear. – René

 

Also, to end the month on a high note, let me know if you have a MR or SPG card,  plus if you want to brag, tell us your credit score, or just tell us you are working on getting it back up again to be able to apply for cards, and you will have a chance to win ONE – FREE DAY PASS to any DELTA SKYCLUB!

Neither answer will increase your chance to win btw.

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Posted by rene | 142 Comments

142 Responses to “Reader question – should I transfer points from Membership Rewards or SPG? + Skyclub pass”

  1. Ben says:

    Just the Amex Plat for me.

  2. HansGolden says:

    I had my Amex cards closed by an FR, but insisted on keeping the points, which they allowed me to transfer.

  3. Ted says:

    I have AMEX PRG and soon-to-be-cancelled Plat MR cards. My credit score is around 740~750 right now.

  4. Jamison says:

    I have both MR and SPG cards ;) credit score 770

  5. DL says:

    Recently closed out my SPG to avoid the annual fee..thinking about whether to re-up.

    Thanks for the pass offer…fingers crossed!

  6. Jim says:

    I have the AMEX MR PLAT and both the personal & BIZ SPG cards. My credit score last time I checked was 784

  7. Jackson says:

    Neither card. Living up north makes us green with envy on your credit card options.

  8. Paul says:

    I have no MR or SPG cards, but if and when I do, I will remember your advice. What about Ultimate Rewards?

  9. Rob says:

    Ive got the Platinum, been thinking about the SPG for quite awhile.

  10. WillRunForMiles (katstarr) says:

    I have an excellent credit score!! I’ll be flying on delta today – MIA-ATL-LGA. I always appreciate a skyclub pass

  11. YK says:

    I’ve had a SPG card for many years – mainly to top off my accounts for reward travel (such a variety of choices!) but I’ve never done credit card churning. Time to get back in the game with all the crazy bonuses thrown in by the credit card companies!

  12. G. Roger says:

    I have the platinum AMEX and also love the perks, and I have the SPG personal and business cards because their points are so very useful. Churning a few times a year and my credit score is holding steady.

  13. dan says:

    i have SPG cards personal and biz, and an MR on DL to PHX in feb so i could really use a club pass!

  14. Carling says:

    I have both an MR and SPG card. My credit score is above 750.

  15. @Jackson – keep reading the blog. I will soon have a section and new options for CA readers! ;-)

  16. Eddy says:

    Seriously thinking about the SPG real soon, but do have the gold prg and zync, I’m on my first year with amex, and honestly I love them.

  17. stephen says:

    @willrunformiles-how did you do? I finished the full just off my best time. I too will be flying today but MIA-MCO-MSP.

  18. Vinay says:

    No SPG or AMEX for me as yet…got denied for AMEX once and SPG twice :-(

  19. Scott says:

    I have the Amex MR card and both the personal & business SPG cards. My credit score is 780.

  20. Danny says:

    I have far more cars than I’d like to admit (SPG personal and business, AmEx personal and business). But I still use most of them.

  21. David says:

    I have both cards, and a credit score hovering between 760 and 770. I have a layover at JFK next week and would LOVE a free pass!

  22. BothofUs2 says:

    Credit score high 700′s but inly have pers spg card. Waiting for some bigger bonus offers before churning again. Concentrating on UR though currently. * only – Credit [i put all 3 into one comment - you only get one chance to win per day - rene]

  23. Ralph L says:

    Actually don’t have either one but one (or both) will be in my next churn. Credit score of 740

  24. Afkabp says:

    Audience Rewards do not keep your SPG account active. Per their terms the only way to keep you points from expiring is at least 1 stay per year or to have the SPG AMEX with at least one charge per year. This has been verified on FT.

  25. @Afkabp – txs for the update. I will edit the post.

  26. Lisa says:

    I have both the MR and the SPG cards. My FICO is 783.

  27. gpapadop says:

    Getting SPG points by answering the Audience Reward questions will NOT extend the life of your SPG points, be careful! Common misconception. You need either a stay or use the AMEX card and…there is a third way, forgot what it is, perhaps use pts for award?

    I have a Plat and just got the Gold Rewards OPEN amex for the 50k MR pts bonus. And have had the Hilton amex for many years. Works for me:-)

  28. MB says:

    I have both a Marriott Rewards Card (gold – platinum is in the next churn) and a SPG AMEX. Credit score high enough to not worry.

  29. ES says:

    Have an SPG credit card, score 770+

  30. Cassie says:

    I have neither, but considering both. Credit score is around 800.

  31. Ozzie says:

    I don’t have either card, but have often heard that SPG is the best and most flexible point accumulating card available.

  32. Aleks says:

    I have the personal Amex Plat and business SPG. Great cards! Credit score still in “very good” territory after several new cards and two mortgage refis in the last 12 months. :)

  33. M says:

    I have the Amex PRG personal and business (old version). I am looking forward to the next 50% bonus transfer to Delta before I close both cards.

  34. D Wils says:

    I’m thinking of getting the SPG card in March, and transferring some generic AMEX points over to the card for redemption at a Hawaii hotel this summer.

  35. SB says:

    SPG and AMEX Biz from 75K offer last November. Planning on the Plat in the next few months.

  36. Mark P says:

    I have the platinum AMEX. Probably will get SPG (and some others this year when the time is right. Credit score is 750+.

  37. Pat says:

    SPG personal and my score sits at 762!

  38. Doug says:

    Have MR card only – current score is 782.

  39. allen says:

    I have 5 MR cards. I was required to close my SPG card when I took out the Delta Platinum; I didn’t want to close the Delta Gold at the time because I was waiting on promotion miles for spending $100 on the card at Delta Sky mall. I intend to reapply for the card when an appropriate time has passed. I closed the SPG card 9/14/11.

  40. allen says:

    oops, my credit score is 780 on Equifax and 803 on TransUnion.

  41. Kevin P says:

    I have neither but plan on including one or both on my next churn

  42. robe0341 says:

    I’m waiting for a Delta promotion (50% I’m hoping ;) before I transfer my 77k MR points to Sky Miles.

  43. MSPDeltaDude says:

    SPG in next 60 days and get a new AMEX when a bonus offer over 50K comes out. Mid 7′s

  44. dwh says:

    SPG for me!

  45. thrashsoundly says:

    I have the Amex PRG. Got the 75K MR bonus last year. lowest score (most inquiries) is mid 740s.

  46. Thomas says:

    Have neither yet. Traditionally, help the Delta Platinum AMEX, but in the last several months been getting into the card churning game. On next churn I’m looking at MR or SPG. Credit score ~745.

  47. Dare says:

    No AMEX Card. Still need a pass.

  48. Amanda Cheng says:

    Amex Platinum AND Gold Premier. 75K bonus pts each.

  49. Stephan says:

    Have both SPG and Gold MR ,but will go for the Plat next. Need those points to visit family!

  50. Ang says:

    I have the Amex PRG card.

  51. Cory says:

    Credit Karma tells me my credit score is a 770, rated as excellent. Not sure as of this moment in time what each of the 3 agencies reports. Did a small kind of churn last week. We’ll see how things are in a month.

  52. Dave says:

    The SPG and AX Blue which, while MR, doesn’t allow transfers – sadly.

  53. JA says:

    I got the AMEX Gold Business last year and I’ve had the SPG for many years.

  54. @Cory – grt – hope you started your churn at deltapoints! ;-) Rene

  55. Bill says:

    Long-time SPG card holder.

  56. Erik says:

    I have an AMEX Gold card – just got it last fall!

  57. DanR says:

    SPG for me.

  58. adamce says:

    Love the chase sapphire, but SPG could be on the lsit for next year

  59. Murali Yellamraju says:

    SPG For me

  60. Anna says:

    I have SPG Amex

  61. AJK says:

    I use plat only. BTW, you “officially” have 90 days to transfer out any points even if you “lose” the AmEx FR. Thought you may want to correct your post.

  62. Jared says:

    The only MR earning card I have is a Zync card…but that’s only MR express. :/ I would love to have the real deal though! Rene, any idea if those points I am earning now can be combined with the regular MR points once I’m able to get a different AMEX, like the Gold card for example?

  63. @AJK – this is not totally correct. Here is why. You have a very limited time, just days, to get them the forms to allow them to look 3 years of you tax returns. Now, if they do not get them, of if the irs does not get them what they want fast enough, you are DONE! I would get your points out FAST if I were in this situation! – Rene

  64. @ Jared – Yes! Most of the time you can “pool” all your personal and business and such MR cards all to once MR account! – Rene

  65. James says:

    I have both the SPG and a MR Amex.

  66. Jasmine says:

    MR card with a credit score around 740 last time I checked!

  67. Joel says:

    Amex SPG and MR Gold (wondering if this is churnable?) from a while back. I don’t know my credit score, but something over 700 would be very nice.

  68. Danny says:

    740
    Is there a higher bonus offer out there for the platinum card?

  69. @ Joel – YES! You can churn the personal and biz cards the same way you can with the Delta ones talked about here: http://deltapoints.boardingarea.com/2012/01/04/a-deltapoints-guide-to-churning-delta-amex-cards-and-more/

  70. Michael Bergmann says:

    SPG Amex for me

  71. @ Danny – not publicly no. There are some referral ones but you have to invited.

  72. Lauren says:

    I got the SPG Amex during the December 30K bonus promo!

  73. Trey says:

    SPG Amex for me

  74. Tom says:

    I have the Amex Platinum card.

  75. Jake L. says:

    I’ve had SPG for a few years now, but to be honest, I’m actually not a fan of the Starwood Hotels! I’d rather pay the same amount and stay in a more boutique spot.

  76. Bob M says:

    I have the SPG Business card

  77. tri nguyen says:

    amex blue just to have for the sake of having an amex. not on the MR program just yet… waiting for a huge deal. 780. i love the chase sapphire.

  78. JMC says:

    I have SPG (personal) and Biz AMEX OPEN. I am a fan of SPG; maybe on my next churn, I will the AMEX Plat

  79. Tri Nguyen says:

    I have the amex blue for cash, just for the sake of having an AMEX. I have not gotten on the MR program band wagon… not yet b/c i love the chase sapphire but would sign up if theres a deal to be had… ie 50k sign up.

  80. thomas says:

    I have the SPG and love it. Don’t see credit churn in my near future.

  81. Brian says:

    Have the SPG Amex. I prefer Chase UR to Amex MR at the moment.

  82. brian says:

    I have the Gold Amex. I am waiting for a good promo for the SPG Amex.

  83. Alex says:

    AMEX Hilton here. Waiting on an enticing MR offer!

  84. Aaron R says:

    Glad to see everyone posting around my score too – hovering in the 750 range. Love Amex so MR for me!

  85. Brad says:

    I have a PRG and the SPG AMEX. thanks

  86. Jill says:

    I only have Marriott, Chase Sapphire, and Chase Freedom. Credit at 810!

  87. Asen says:

    Have SPG Amex as well as Amex MR. At the moment the prefer the SPG because of their versatility.

  88. John says:

    Don’t have either card, but considering adding the SPG to my next churn.

  89. nick says:

    Have SPG AMEX.

  90. john says:

    Amex Plat-750

  91. FG says:

    got the Amex Plat, has come in handy

  92. DavidAL says:

    I have the SPG, Am Ex PRG, and Am Ex Biz Gold. Only use the SPG at SPG properties though.

  93. Greg H. says:

    I have a SPG AMEX and a Platinum card. My credit score is 770+

  94. Aravind says:

    I have the AMEX platinum credit card. I am happy with the card I have. Score 670

  95. Dan says:

    Just got my first Amex card -PRG. I have a high credit score.

  96. Bruce Nightingale says:

    724 as of the 5 min mark lol

  97. Russ says:

    I would love get a pass. My score is probably 780.

  98. Sherri says:

    I don’t have either one at the moment, but I have had both in the past and probably will again in the future.

  99. Bryan says:

    I have the SPG AMEX and like it a lot.

  100. Gussomer says:

    760 and MR

  101. Patrick says:

    I have both cards. My credit score is very high.

  102. LR says:

    Have both and love them equally!

  103. Bryan says:

    Credit score of upper 790s – have neither card

  104. Rob says:

    Neither, but looking

  105. Stefan says:

    I have the MR card. Credit score of 698 here.

  106. Longshot says:

    I have SPG and very good credit score.

  107. Debbie says:

    I have both spg and mr. I’m traveling with a baby from NY to south Africa on Klm (almost 24 hours of travel!) and would love a lounge pass so the baby can crawl during the stopover!

  108. Raghav says:

    Have both and love them!! Score is 765.

  109. YesMissWin says:

    I have both the SPG and MR card (although the MR is a corporate card that I paid the $75 to earn the points on).

  110. Aarash Fakhori says:

    I don’t have either, but I have been looking hard at the SPG Amex, hoping they’ll come out with a higher initial bonus. Last I looked my score was 700+

  111. Sammy says:

    I have spg personal and am getting ready for my first card churn

  112. Mark says:

    Got a gold MR which I really need to upgrade to plat. Need to check my credit score and learn more about the best way to churn..

  113. ari says:

    SPG only. My score’s taken a hit recently from taking advantage of 0% offers…utilization is too high it seems. Working on getting it back down, eventually :)

  114. Bill says:

    I have both cards and like them both. I like the spg for spg points for hotels though and like the amex plat benefits and occasional transfer bonuses.

  115. drtroy says:

    have amer mr card and just got the delta platinum card. would love a delta pass for a long layover I have coming up!

  116. goober says:

    I have SPG card and have around a 760 score (not bad for being a student :D)

  117. janet says:

    spg & amex premier gold. and last i checked…high 7′s for us in credit score.

  118. Dan says:

    I have neither card unfortunately.

  119. Dale Rausch says:

    I do have an SPG card. Score is in the mid 700s, even after 10 card churns in the past 12 months :)

  120. Bruce says:

    Spg..740 range

  121. Barb says:

    Spg…ya sure you betcha

  122. sarah says:

    i don’t have either. Some day

  123. sam says:

    nope…not in my wallet. I need to work on my credit score

  124. AJK says:

    @Rene — Again, even if you DO lose your FR (no matter if it was because you didn’t sign the forms or the IRS was slow in producing them), the terms allow you 90 days to liquidate your MR account.

  125. @AJK – I agree that the T&C state that but the reality is very different. I have readers who were Centurion card holders who lost tens of thousands of points and could not get them back no matter what. YMMV but my advice to readers if you get targeted with the “Spanish Inquisition” AKA the FR, get your POINTS OUT ASAP! – Rene

  126. john says:

    I have the SPG and agree it is a great card.

  127. Ray says:

    Mid-7′s, and I have an MR card! Looking to get it up even higher before the next churn….

  128. Lantean says:

    I have Amex Plat & Gold perosnal and SPG business. Probably will close Amex Plat and get a portion of the annual fee refunded.

  129. Joseph says:

    Planning on getting the Amex Plat.

  130. marzman says:

    I have the Amex PRG and love it! Working my credit back up after some big items last year (including a house and car…)!

  131. IW says:

    I have PR Gold card and Business card. Score is around 770.

  132. Bradley B. says:

    I’ve got both an MR and an SPG card.

  133. Embla says:

    I have neither an MR or SPG card, still trying to learn more about churning before I jump in and start signing up for CCs. :) Credit score is all right – 745.

  134. AlwaysTravel says:

    I have both the AmEx Plat and SPG card, but will probably be closing them when the fees come around. Credit score is 749 as of today!

  135. Scott says:

    I have and really like the SPG card

  136. JY says:

    I have the SPG card… love it for all the benefits. Credit score 720.

  137. Joe says:

    I have the AmEx Premier Rewards Gold card, and a 759 credit score. Probably getting the SPG card soon as well.

  138. Rachel says:

    I currently have neither card, but will be getting the SPG Amex once I get rid of my BA Visa (since you can transfer points to keep the BA account active).

  139. Lori says:

    I have a amex preferred gold card, but have never carried an spg card.

  140. Tina says:

    AmEx Plat; no SPG CC. If I win, I assume I can gift the Sky Club pass to a friend…

  141. @ Tina – yes you could but I gave it away a few days ago. – Thanks – Rene

  142. Val says:

    I have neither. Still new to this and haven’t started with the cards yet.

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